Reversing the Post/Comment Paradigm
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The standard blog arrangement where something gets posted and then people comment on that post (or not) is all fine and dandy, but lately I’ve been thinking that there should be some way for people to write here without having to respond to anything. Sort of like a suggestion box. Only not just for suggestions. And not a box. You get the idea.
Occasionally people will post a comment in a story thread which is way off topic. This doesn’t annoy me at all beyond making me feel that it should be easier for people to initiate something rather than just responding to what I post. Movable Type allows for multiple authors, of course, but this probably goes a bit too far for what I have in mind. The multiple author approach also presents certain (perfectly sensible) barriers to casual posting, so I’m thinking something more along the lines of a perpetual entry (perhaps located somehow in the right-hand column) whose sole purpose is to provide a place to write apropos of nothing.
Any thoughts on the subject would be much appreciated (or links to anyone who’s already doing something similar) as I try to figure out how this can best be implemented.
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Posted to MetaStuff • 2003.01.11 (Sat) • 14:59
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Posted by Erik J. Barzeski 2003.01.11, 15:26
Would be nifty… you could create a new topic and shut the old one down when the comment list got too long, or take a weekly suggestion (daily) for a conversation topic or something. A few ways to go on this one… but an interesting experiment nonetheless.
Posted by jh 2003.01.11, 15:37
I’m not expecting a huge amount of traffic (Antipixel’s no MetaFilter) but ‘rotating’ the topic is certainly a possibility. This could happen on an as-needed basis, of course.
Threaded comments would make things easier. Writer A posts something to which Writers B & C respond, while Writer D starts off on some new topic.
Hmm… it’s starting to look like multiple authors, isn’t it.
Posted by resonance 2003.01.11, 16:08
Jeremy, if I understand your intentions, you could use a separate blog and SSI to accomplish something like this.
A blog named “miscellany”, say, would have one entry, and the entry’s comment wouldn’t much matter. You could then use an embedded comment form where people could leave their comments and they could appear, say, in the right column of your entry page in whatever order you wish.
I run the guestbook on my site this way, though I don’t use includes since I’m not trying to merge the guestbook entries with blog content.
In theory this would work, though it sounds like you really do want a blog with multiple authors.
Posted by pixelkitty 2003.01.11, 16:29
You really are talking more about a forum than a weblog. That said, if you want to keep it in a weblog, you can.
PMachine allows users to join themselves up to a “collective” weblog.
If someone becomes obnoxious, you can always revoke their membership.
Anyway, PMachine has what you want (I think) but its not always the best solution, that is, one that someone else wrote.
Posted by john 2003.01.11, 22:13
I haven’t tried this but I believe you should be able to create a template page for a category like “graffiti wall” and then setup a trackback ping to that category, which would allow someone from their own site to write something that will appear on your template page for that category.
Posted by Nick 2003.01.12, 00:34
You could put a single “always on” post in a separate column where the comments scroll in “reverse” (newest on top). That might be a simple, temporary solution.
I like the idea of a separate weblog included on the front page via your favorite SSI flavor though. I’m not trying to garner hits here, but that’s how I got users more involved about two weeks ago. I’ve been pretty happy with the results, but I’m a very low traffic site.
Posted by Mike 2003.01.12, 02:02
What about Wiki?
Posted by Aa 2003.01.12, 02:10
John has the right idea — you can do this using a special Trackback case. Have a look at http://www.richarderiksson.com/movableblog/— the sidebar on the right can be posted to by anyone, using a trackback ping, or, if the author doesn’t have trackback (or a weblog, for the matter), via a special form.
In your case, you’d probably want to not display the URL field (since you want to allow posts from people without websites also), and use the Excerpt field as the whole body of the third-party post.
Posted by john 2003.01.12, 05:00
I’ve been looking at this today and I think the problem with the trackback approach is the limitation to the number of characters (255) currently surfaced in a trackback ping.
Here is a link to another person thinking about a similar approach.
http://www.rayners.org/archives/000138.php
Posted by M Sinclair Stevens 2003.01.12, 23:46
I think I am attracted to weblogs because they are not forums. I like people’s comments when they add to the conversation, but (unlike you), am annoyed when they go off topic.
The first two weblogs I set up were multi-author. I have a lot of friends who are writers, but they are not very computer-savvy. I knew they were unlikely to set up weblogs of their own. Getting them on the weblog bandwagon has been nigh impossible.
What I’ve discovered in the last year is that I prefer weblogs that are the voice and vision of one person—one person with an interesting set of friends who leave comments and link to their own weblogs.
Posted by Xian 2003.01.13, 15:09
Brad Choate talks about how he uses the “feature” of movable type that allowed comments to be posted to unpublished entries here. Using something like that you may be able to do what you want to do without setting up a separate blog. Depends on how much you want to do with it really.
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Posted by emily. 2003.07.01, 23:33
It seems that geegaw has been hijacked (or suffered a split personality), but her Diablog was/is what you seem to be talking about. http://www.geegaw.com/diablog/
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1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute
for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He
later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in
Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy
Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure
experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.
1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with
syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead
are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and
symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their
families never told that they could have been treated.
1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra
over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to
stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at
least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to
act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black
populations.
1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order
to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to combat the disease.
Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend
their own actions during the Holocaust.
1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on
approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made
use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather
than serve on active duty.
1943 In response to Japan’s full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S.
begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.
1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing.
Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and
lewisite.
1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army
intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity
and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects
in the United States.
1945 “Program F” is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC).
This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride,
which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the
most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked
adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is
squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits
would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.
1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical
experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the
word “experiments” to “investigations” or “observations” whenever reporting
a medical study performed in one of the nation’s veteran’s hospitals.
1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a
secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency
will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to
human subjects.
1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by
American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used
with and without their knowledge.
1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in
desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and
mortality rates.
1950 In an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be
to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships
over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in
order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with
pneumonia-like symptoms.
1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing
bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that
people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.
1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over
Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in
Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how
efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.
1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of
thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the
airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.
1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program
designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used
for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved
testing the agents on unwitting human beings.
1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human
populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the
Army’s biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.
1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research, studying its potential use
as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in
the tests, which continue until 1958.
1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over
Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as
public health officials test victims for effects.
1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army’s Chemical Warfare
Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.
1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes
field testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european
population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian
population is code named Project DERBY HAT.
1965 Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a
program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use
of mind-altering drugs.
1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected
to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet
Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates
that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.
1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological
effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.
1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New
York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army
scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.
1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to
MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical
weapons.
1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by
injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.
1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from
congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic
biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.
1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R.
The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army’s top secret
biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology
techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.
1970 United States intensifies its development of “ethnic weapons”
(Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate
specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and
variations in DNA.
1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick’s Center for Biological Warfare
Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under
the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a
special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to
develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists
isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human
T-cell Leukemia Virus).
1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239
populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949
and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key
West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.
1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin
in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects
specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.
1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los
Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been
introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine
1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a
fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and
evolutionary relationship.
1986 According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
(83:4007-4011), HIV and VISNA are highly similar and share all structural
elements, except for a small segment which is nearly identical to HTLV. This
leads to speculation that HTLV and VISNA may have been linked to produce a
new retrovirus to which no natural immunity exists.
1986 A report to Congress reveals that the U.S. Government’s current
generation of biological agents includes: modified viruses, naturally
occurring toxins, and agents that are altered through genetic engineering to
change immunological character and prevent treatment by all existing
vaccines.
1987 Department of Defense admits that, despite a treaty banning research
and development of biological agents, it continues to operate research
facilities at 127 facilities and universities around the nation.
1990 More than 1500 six-month old black and hispanic babies in Los Angeles
are given an “experimental” measles vaccine that had never been licensed for
use in the United States. CDC later admits that parents were never informed
that the vaccine being injected to their children was experimental.
1994 With a technique called “gene tracking,” Dr. Garth Nicolson at the MD
Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, TX discovers that many returning Desert
Storm veterans are infected with an altered strain of Mycoplasma incognitus,
a microbe commonly used in the production of biological weapons.
Incorporated into its molecular structure is 40 percent of the HIV protein
coat, indicating that it had been man-made.
1994 Senator John D. Rockefeller issues a report revealing that for at
least 50 years the Department of Defense has used hundreds of thousands of
military personnel in human experiments and for intentional exposure to
dangerous substances. Materials included mustard and nerve gas, ionizing
radiation, psychochemicals, hallucinogens, and drugs used during the Gulf
War .
1995 U.S. Government admits that it had offered Japanese war criminals and
scientists who had performed human medical experiments, salaries and
immunity from prosecution in exchange for data on biological warfare
research.
1995 Dr. Garth Nicolson, uncovers evidence that the biological agents used
during the Gulf War had been manufactured in Houston, TX and Boca Raton, Fl
and tested on prisoners in the Texas Department of Corrections.
1996 Department of Defense admits that Desert Storm soldiers were exposed
to chemical agents.
1997 Eighty-eight members of Congress sign a letter demanding an
investigation into bioweapons use & Gulf War Syndrome.
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