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Some people do need convincing

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A Homer Simpson says, it’s funny because it’s true:

If you want people to use sane and semantic headlines, you have to give them (er, actual ideas tend to be my downfall) a browser extension that shows a linked-up outline in the sidebar, or an on-hover outline in a search results page, or convince them that <h2>Blue Widgets</h2> will just absolutely kick <div style="font-size:14px">Blue Widgets</div> so far out of the results that they’ll be buying the competition’s leftover inventory and insisting that the former owner deliver it himself. On Saturday.

I’m currently struggling with the how-to-convince question.

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Posted to General Rants 2005.01.23 (Sun) • 02:12

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Posted by M. Douglas Wray   2005.01.23, 04:55

  • It’s how it was meant to be used.

  • It’s how the search engines rank.

  • It’s just common sense.

  • The folks that get it will prevail eventually. The rest will bray and caw as they always do.

    Posted by Hannah Granger   2005.01.23, 07:22

    Ouch, now we, bloggars have our blog-toolbar - http://blogsearchengine.com/blog/index.php?p=123 !

    Posted by Stephen   2005.01.23, 07:52

    When I first started using CSS, I didn’t realize that it was possible to format heading tags; I thought that any standard HTML heading always appeared in its standard form. So I used span and div to make them look the way I wanted. Although, I was doing that five years ago before the big push for web standards and full support for CSS in the major browsers.

    I think the major problem today is that a lot of people start making web pages using Netscape Composer or M$ Frontpage. If those people start trying to figure out how to hand code HTML by looking at how the popular WYSIWYG editors make a page, they won’t be seeing clean, stardards-compliant markup. They’ll see div and font and span and br and not one h1 or h2 anywhere in their spaghetti.

    Posted by Phil Wilson   2005.01.23, 12:41

    Because if they use the hx tags they’ll only have to change their CSS in one place instead of searching through every page and making the change?

    Posted by Russ   2005.01.23, 19:56

    I’m on what I’m calling a sabbatical from website development, but I still like to keep myself informed with anything related to coding well-structured HTML.

    It’s interesting that you highlight this point. Ever since CSS came along, I’ve always implemented the Hn tags into the structure of my pages and styled them accordingly.

    The strange thing is, is that I’ve always done the same when structuring my Word documents. I use its Hn styles too to ‘mark-up’ my document and styled them accordingly. I did this because I found when constructing things like indexes, table of contents, table of figures, and cross-references it was easier to mark-up and then let Word do all the indexes automatically for me. I’d go insane if I tried to do any of those manually! I actually think that my approach to marking-up my Word documents was translated to my approach to marking-up my HTML documents.

    I wonder if the people who mark-up their HTML documents with appropriate Hn tags also mark-up their word processing documents the same way?

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