Datura
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Datura is a psychoactive plant that’s very common in gardens throughout Japan. I guess people like the huge, bell-shaped flowers (either white or pink) and their sweet smell (it’s a sickly sweet, if you ask me). Datura was one of the ingredients Don Juan used to make his potions in the Carlos Casteneda books.
I heard a funny story the other day about a family that was taken to hospital after eating datura root (the most potent part of the plant). One of the parent’s mother had sent the family some gobo (burdock root) that she’d grown in her garden. The burdock was growing right next to a datura plant and she inadvertently dug up some of the datura root and sent it along with the burdock. The mother and father prepared a meal using this burdock/datura mix and absolutely spazzed out, apparently. Luckily their child is too young for solid food yet so was spared.
Neighbours heard quite a commotion inside the house as the mother and father began to hallucinate wildly, and had them taken to hospital. The grandmother who had sent the burdock came to Tokyo when she heard the news. Doctors couldn’t figure out what was wrong and kept the couple in hospital for observation. The grandmother returned to their place and prepared dinner for herself – using the burdock that she’d sent!
Of course, she then begins tripping like a madwoman and has to be taken to hospital whereupon the connection is made that the burdock is contaminated with something. They test it and discover the datura.
An old house I lived in many years ago in Australia had a huge datura plant in the garden, and some of my friends decided to get Don Juany with it. I can tell you from first-hand observation to stay the hell away from datura. I’ve yet to see evidence that it’s worth getting involved with.
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Posted to Oh, the Humanity • 2002.10.28 (Mon) • 00:03
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Posted by M Sinclair Stevens 2002.10.28, 04:44
The common American name for Datura, “jimsonweed,” is said to have come from a similar experience by some citizens of colonial-era Jamestown, who brought home salad greens including Datura.
The Datura clan has recently been divided into two groups: Datura, with upward-facing flowers, and Brugmansia, with pendulous, downward-facing flowers. I grow both in my garden, but nowhere near my vegetables.
Posted by jh 2002.10.28, 15:49
M — I knew it was called jimson weed but didn’t know about the Jamestown origins. The joint must have been jumpin’! From what I’ve seen, it’s not a nice high at all.
Also didn’t know about the Brugmansia classification. That’s what we seem to have here: all the flowers are the downward facing ones.
Another story from Australia: there was a woman in the southwest part of my state who started experiencing full-on psychotic states a couple of times a year. Couldn’t figure out what was going wrong . Turns out she had a datura plant outside her bedroom window and the pollen blowing in was enough to affect her!
Posted by memyself 2002.10.28, 23:27
beware the flowers of the blue datura it is posionous to fatal commonly used as a suidical agent in 3rd world countries i believe it was called the nightshade before..i may be wrong
Posted by M 2002.10.29, 02:48
Unable to remember the book that I read the Jamestown story in, I did the second most obvious thing, searched Google.
This page by Jimsonweed (the band?) provided some interesting information on the plant, including the exact quote from Robert Beverly’s book on the history of Virginia that I was looking for.
Cattlemen considered jimsonweed a rank and dangerous pest and worked hard to eradicate it, but now they sell it in the nurseries here as a “native” plant. All you need is one, though, and it you’ll never get rid it out of your garden.
Posted by johnpcooper 2002.10.30, 06:54
Datura is used in India as a drug to knock out tourists and rob, or kill (or both) them.
It’s common for fraudulent holy men to offer to smoke hash chillums or take bhang with tourists or spirtual aspirants from outside of India.
If they’re lucky, people are found wandering in a haze with little recollection of where they’ve been or who they were with for the past few days. So there’s little chance of pinning the culprit.
The moral of the story: Don’t smoke weed with Sadhus if you’re travelling in India!
Posted by fredd 2002.10.30, 23:15
http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml
all you want to know…
for educational use only
Posted by Anon. 2002.12.06, 22:04
gouter la datura peut- etre intéressant (juste pour essayer, bien sur). Parce que c’est vraiment déguelasse voyez vous. Enfin, c’est marrant quoi, on rigole bien.MAIS IL FAUT FAIRE ATTENTION
Posted by CLAUDIA FERNANDA DE SOUZA 2003.07.27, 02:56
DATURA is the most interesting plant in this world , i have read more than 500 stories about it , it is very scaring , funny , absurd, i am DEEP IN LOVE with this blessed, poisoned flower , i have never done it , but in the next future , qith a datura teacher , i will start my teachings . Iam from Brazil , how can i obtain the SEEDS ????
Posted by From another world 2003.08.30, 10:20
You can get the seeds easily on www.ebay.com or on any nursery site..
Posted by From another world 2003.08.30, 10:29
The most poisounous part of Dartura is the seeds, then then flowers, then leaves, then the root..
I tried a flower once, and it made me hallucinate.. I Dont recommend any one doing this or trying this, because you will end up dead or in the hospital!!!! Once you take it, there is no turning back, its already to late!!! Its better to be safe then end up dead, so stay away from this highly poisounous/deadly plant!!!!!!
and yeah Datura is one of many plants part of the Deadly Nightshade Family, with Belladonna being the most deadly plant on earth, more poisonous then Datura, just touching a Belladonna leaf will poison you!!!
Be carefull with both of these plants even if you are just growing them, because like I said you can get poisoned by handling the leaves! So take precautions if you are planning on growing Datura or Belladonna!!!!
Posted by Chitty 2003.12.11, 22:24
Personally, I have heard otherwise. I have never tried Datura but aparently when the flower is brewed as a tea it is not nearly as deadly but infact a popular hulicinogenic similair to LCD.
I do not actually recomend you try this as it is potentially dangerous but if you wish to find out more go to http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/psychedelics/167743.html
Posted by Kyle 2004.02.28, 03:55
Chitty is a fucken moron. “infact a popular hulicinogenic similair to LCD” LCD!!, fucken idiot man.
Posted by My name is Daysanta 2004.04.09, 06:22
Attention to - another world…
Your words of ‘wisdom’ are completely lacklustre, blown out of proportion, which leads me to believe, you really are in ‘another word’. It’s unfortunate that you’ve succumbed to the pressures and perils of society, it sounds like counselling or psychotherapy would not be a bad option for the benefit of your mental state. However, some of your comments “once you take it, there’s no going back” do hold there own, but the method in which you wish to inform peoples about the dangers of this shrub/plant/tree are not the way to go! The flowers hold the greatest percentile of the toxic alkaloid, hyoscamine; without the other two alkaloids in near equal proportions, atropine and scopolomine, this alkaloid is, what some people would call ‘deadly’. The point of that blurb is to push the message that the flowers are the most humanly toxic part of the plant. Peace and good luck,
hope you read this…
Posted by My name is Daysanta 2004.04.09, 06:24
Ps. Chitty is a moron, utterly.
Posted by khayyam 2004.12.04, 10:06
Datura??, I bet most of you LITTLE boys and girls havnt even seen the stuff let alone tripped on it!. Yes it will BLOW your mind totally away, Just be carefull or you could never wake up. Khayyam.
Posted by Arrian 2005.02.22, 21:20
Datura is common in Australia. In the town i live in there’s a guy who was given datura. They told him it was pot, now he spends his days walking the street. Taking baths in the fountain in the centre of the CBD. He took the drug 4 years ago and he’s still fucked up. I would definately recommend you stay away from it. I met the guy who was given datura one night, at about 12:30 I was mid pub crawl and completely and utterly wasted, but I turned to one of my mates and started to comment on how wasted he was. Then i got told about the datura. This guy is so fucked up that I thought he was more wasted than me. And I had a full swerve on. haha. Be careful if you want to try it. You’d be safer to take chances with a bag of ecstacy. Anyway. There’s my 8.5c
Posted by DanMan 2005.03.21, 19:04
Yes! I want to try this stuff. My neighbour has one of these plants growing in his backyard and I want to give it a go. Now, what is the safest way of consuming this plant? I have done some research on the subject and it seems making tea is the way to go. How much do I need then, and exactly how do I go about making the tea?
Thanks!
Posted by horse 2005.04.21, 12:34
If your a fanatic drug user and love trying new and strange experiences you probaly like fantasy,now in the film “The Never Ending Story”Otrayo, faces the celestrial mirror where he is told brave men see they are cowards, rich men poor in spirit etc.datura is descibed as a concious dream where one is unaware he is tripping the experience is that of the mirror it is ultimately unpredictable to the user however smart they may think ,in short datura is the mirror you are the man wanting to see his true self and test your own control or counter opposite, your concious meeting your unconcious and in turn the result may be profound or destuctive or both it is extremely powerful and ultimately if you decide to endeaver(I STRONGLY WARN AGAINST ITS USE) you may as well play Russian roulet but make sure there are 3 bullets instead of 1!If in vane you decline may advice do your research and im sure like many others it will forever change you Good or Bad it will forever change you
Posted by Annwyn 2005.06.06, 08:11
Datura is an amazing plant. There are several types. I grow several myself and enjoy the total mindfucks that come along with it. The only ongoing problem(in reference to the idiot who claims one guy in Austrailia to have been tripping for year) is a problem reading for a few days after the trip. All types have different side effects. I know that ALL of them provide SEVERE dehydration. Some give headaches…. some really screw ur vision up. The main effect, and the desired one is the hallucinating. To those idiots who say it’s all deadly and all…. I handle my daturas AND my weed AND my belladonna(yes I grow that too) and I don’t get intoxicated in the least, nor does anyone else who brushes against it or even mash it up in their hands…. I’ve seen poeple eat a pound of the stuff before, while in bloom!!! They tripped out about 40 hours and are fine now. The only thing that can make this plant deadly is what you do while tripping. If you are too weak to handle seeing some kewl shit… fuck you.
Posted by svencrwls 2005.06.20, 06:48
hey there! be extermly careful with this plant. ive chewed the seeds, made tea from the roots and leaves. ive ingested it about 20 stupid times. the effects of taking this plant internally is the most unpleasant experience ever!!!!! the side effects from the toxins include a mouth so dry you can not eat, drink, or swallow without much difficulty. also does something allful to the muscles, such as contortions and contractions. i live in arizona, not sure exactly which dartura, but with much pain and sufferering ive learned NOT TO TAKE THIS PLANT INTERALLY! ther is a book written by carlos castenadas , the teachings of duan juan, a yaqui indian. in it is a method of extracting the "good" parts of the plant into a paste that is applied EXTERNALLY. i have not done this yet, but am sure ther is no other way to enjoy this sacrament. hope ive been some help.
Posted by Ventrex 2005.06.21, 03:59
Well, you have to remember Datura is used in many cultures as a sacrament in rite-of-passage/coming-of-age ceremonies. The Don Juan Paste Method from A Yaqui Way of Knowledge might be preferable, but you’ll still be taking atropine or scopolamine, so you’ll still get the intense anticholinergenic aches.
“If you are too weak to handle seeing some kewl shit…”
You just don’t get it, do you? The problem is not being unable to handle the hallucinations and delirium produced by the plant (a feat that I think you also don’t understand; these are full blown hallucinations, meaning you won’t be able to tell if they’re real or imagined, and most of them will be mundane things like a friend talking to you for an hour and then vanishing), but the fact that atropine and scopolamine—those precious psychoactive chemicals that are making you “see kewl shit”—are poisonous and, when ingested in large enough doses, fatal. The problem is that the atropine and scopolamine count in each seed varies, sometimes vastly, so it’s next to impossible to be able to judge a dose. This is why Datura is dangerous. It’s not about being able to handle the subjective psychoactive/delirient effects, but your body being able to handle objective poisoning. I’m not trying to scaremonger here, just offer some facts you’re either ignorant of, or have consciously overlooked. I’m not even doing that to try to spread the message that Datura and other anticholinergenics are dangerous and should never be used. I love Datura; I love the culture behind it, the history behind it, it is at times alluring and at times terrifying. But it’s not a drug you can disrespect and expect to live very long. That’s why it pisses me off when idiots try to take it to get high. A little trip to Erowid and a little trip to Lyceaem is all you need to know all you can about your trips.
Posted by makeyrself220 2005.08.26, 02:31
Me and my friend heard about Datura from one of my other friends who went to the mountains and smoked it with a guy who lived up there. One day while we were fishing (We live along the Monongahela, Pa) we found a couple Datura plants so I took the seeds out and some leaves and I went home and dried them out and we smoked about 8 bowls in the matter of about 3 hours. We felt kinda wierd but not fucked up at all. We eventually went home and I woke up the next morning to my friends mom calling my house and telling me that he was in the ER and they think he overdossed on cocaine. She said that he kept saying he wanted to go fishing and he was trying to find his fishing pole. Why would this affect him so much and not affect me at all?
Posted by bud 2005.08.31, 19:34
How many seeds does it take to get spiritual and how many to die?
Posted by la diablo 2005.09.16, 05:38
This is a poison, weather that scares you or not. If you insist upon trying it (which no one will recomend due to the fact that every person’s reaction to it will very and every plant’s potency varies as well) most poison eaters will recommend starting small, and I mean small!!! I can not tell you what I mean by small, because I can not tell you how potent of a plant you have. Also, different parts of the same plant can vary in potency. It is better to not take enough than to take to much. You will find this plant easy to grow, and propagate from seed (as cuttings do not root well), so you should have no excuse to rush into things. The plant will always be around, so go slow. Be safe and share what you learn to the other curious people in the world, because there is a lot of them.
Posted by bud 2005.09.21, 13:57
In our younger years my buddies and I took Motion sickness pills and had wild and cool halucinations. I read recently that the datura is used to make these pills. If you ran into someone who is on those, you would take them to the nearest asylum myself included due senseless ramblings and talking, touching, smelling, hearing thin air. to the outsider nothing but to the tripper it was reall amazing we could not differentiate between reality and visions. I want to try the plant to see if the other chemicals in it would change the buzz.
Posted by pj 2005.09.29, 21:34
I am researching this plant for my school newspaper because their have been students who have found and used datura in the school parking lot. Many have been found to hallucinate and some haven’t benn able to urinate for a few days. This stuff is supposed to really mess you up internally.any more info on datura would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2005.10.15, 04:39
hi all…. ok first off pj go to this site http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml in my own opinion it is one of the best sites out there also i would tell those who took datura during school to visit this site also….cause they obviously dont know what there getting into. also i would recomend looking up the trip reports on that site. they provide valueble insight into just how bad it can get and just how stupid people can be while handling this plant. I also agree with la diablo, those of you who are thinking of taking datura,you cant rush it. one of the main reason of people getting fucked up (or tripping in australia for 4 years….unlikely but w\e) is that they take overly insane doses of datura (tea or other) and expect there body to be able to handle it…..datura is a poisonus plant!! as stated by coutless people befor me, and when a poison is introduced into a living subject it does more harm then good (duh).. if you wish to take datura and get realy tripy halucinations and not end up in the ER the next day getting your stomach pumped all you need to do is build up a resistance to the poison. you can do this as easely as drinking a tea spoon of datura tea a day or injesting a few seeds.(3-5 but again
the potency of the plant varies greatly…in which case you must use your own judgement and good sense). i personaly started taking a shot glass of mild watered down tea twice a week for several months…the result, i have been able to drink a pitcher of well brewed (not watered down or made half ass) datura tea and since then seemed to have gained resistance to poison ivy (go figure). also your mind can begin to destinguish between realety and halucinations. i find its more common sense, if you know your on a halucinagin and sudenly your friend from swiss shows up with a onze of weed chances are your seeing things ( i still went along with it tho….like common..would you have risked it being real and passing on such a great happenstance)…. its just that simple…too all those people out there who took a whole plant shoped it up brewed it and drank the product ,if your still alive, i suggest crack its a much less painfull way to go. i would like to note that i have had bad trips many times….from calling the fire department to put out an imaginary forest fire to sitting on a log in the woods watching pigmies dancing around me.. i have see it all (prob not but meh)…. to help with these situations and to coping with what happens around me i started meditating…i cant speak for anyone but myself but i have found that quiet meditation has helped me alot and for those of you who take datura on a regular basis i recomend trying it i find it to be a different experience all togetherwell this has been my 90 euro 20 dollars and 50 pence hope this will help any who wish to take datura or who are thinking about it ……..have fun and trip safely
P.S Pj just a head up…if the teachers and\or parents dont know what those guys took to make then act strangely (im sure someone noticed) theyll prob put 2 and 2 together after they read your artical…
Posted by nick stavros 2005.10.28, 13:13
I am making a movie about some Tasmanian kids who take Datura.. If anyone has two million dollars, or some funny or violent recollections historical or personal they want to share with me, drop me an e mail at nicksemmens@hotmail.com. Label it Datura. And be careful ya fuckin’ trippers…
Posted by holly anne 2005.10.29, 15:04
pj: thats fucking crazy! who would want to trip at school? in my opinion one of the most important things to do, while tripping datura or any other hallucinogen, is to make sure you are surrounded by people that you trust. and sober sitters are a MUST. i think being with someone who hasnt been dosed brings a nice level of confidence to the trip. also dont be surprised if you are smoking a cigarrette and suddenly theres nothing there. have fun and remember that doing drugs at school is stupid as hell unless you wanna get caught and have a bad trip. Peace out and stay safe.
PS chitty: shame, shame you fucking idiot
Posted by will 2005.10.31, 23:35
hey im new to all this shit i hear its something worth a try and im probably going to get my hands on some, i hear that the best way is to smoke it with pot is this true and how many flowers/leaves would i need to smoke, if not how do you make tea out of it
Posted by nick stavros 2005.11.01, 07:52
Holly Anne. Drop me an e mail. Three things you mentioned in your post are in my script already… Wierd. Maybe your recollections can help my story… nicksemmens@hotmail.com
Posted by will 2005.11.02, 21:01
hey im new to all this shit i hear its something worth a try and im probably going to get my hands on some, i hear that the best way is to smoke it with pot is this true and how many flowers/leaves would i need to smoke, if not how do you make tea out of it
Posted by mike 2005.12.01, 18:23
so what are the different types? which are poisonous? which parts are recommended to take? if i were to purchase some what kind would be recommended?
Posted by JASON 2005.12.05, 06:18
hey, anybody who plans on doing this shit needs to know wat their gettin into. my first time i got brought home by a COP and was hallucinating for 4 DAYS after i drank that nasty shit. if you dont wanna “over do it” but still trip your balls off, its all in how you make it. if you make tea out of it, the longer you boil it the more potent it usually is. 30-45 min. usually dose pretty good. dont use the spiked balls or flowers. just use leaves and stems. probibly the worst thing to do is mix it with oter drugs, smokin pot is kool but with anything else just wait til you start to sober up. well, have a good trip & dont get too fucked up!
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2005.12.08, 08:19
kinds of datura: for every climate, for every land, for every ecosystem there is a type of datura….. theyre differences might be slight if any at all or they might be completely different in every way..
Ex. in my home town many people grow datura (not sure what strand) and the plant is a normal bush, i havent seen any big ones only small ones the size of a shrub and the colour of flower always varies from white yellow and pink/ish….. then i went and visited a friend in halifax, there was a botanical garden not to far from his place…. the datura there looked like someone had forcefully stretched the plant, it wasent a bush anymore it was a vine hanging off of fences…..i wasent even sure it was datura until i saw the spiked pods, my worries left completely after i had taken some and experienced the familiar symtomes that come with datura….the usual feeling of floating around, lungs feeling more open /easier to breath, the feeling of having just swallowed a sand box ect. the flowers on this plant were deep blue, almost black and there were some vines with orange flowers.
A tea made from the roots of one of the plant (yeah roots….im not allowed in that garden anymore :P ) gave a freaking good buzz…was a good night of tripping…(tip: dont see saw 2 on datura unless if your very synical and laught at that kind of stuff) but again each plant affects each individual differently..basicly theres no telling whats gona happen…..its like playing buzz russian roullet…you could hit a dud just as much as you could a silver bullet.
so to answer your question mike, ive looked around for a complete list of datura strand and havent found anything to promising , it realy doesnt matter what strand you get cause the effect is different for every plant and individual….for the poison part… different sources will tell you different things…some say only the seeds are poisonous others only the flower, theres so many different opinions thats its almost imposible to get a straight answer but the healthies thing you can do is put it into your mind that the entier plant is poison and should be treated with respect, take moderat doses at first …..if you want to purchase some your best bet would probably to get some dried roots and to make a tea….roots are easy to prepare and eating the roots after making the tea seems to add to the buzz…
if your gona make tea or take any part of this plant i suggest a sober sitter and befor even attempting a straight dose to water down the tea…somewere along the lines of 2 parts tea 3-5 parts water….. dont make the mistake of thinking you can take it all in one shot and it wont fuck you up…..cause all you need is one bad batch and youl be paying for it…..just ask any of the people on this site and 9 out of 10 will tell you that they have bad tripped befor and im sure many of those people will tell you that they will never touch datura again
well i hope that this helps who ever
keep on tripping in the free world
Posted by uhm 2005.12.12, 01:06
As far as I know, the entire plant is poisonous. I seriously doubt that just handling a plant or smelling the flower would cause people to trip because if that were true, there would be alot more people dying of accidental Datura poisoning.
I’ve read reports on erowid.org about several drugs and with Datura at least, the most common thing that comes with bad trips are those that take too much not knowing just how potent it is. What people don’t understand is that this isn’t weed and you can’t treat it like it is. You should start out at very low doses. If you eat the seeds, start out at 10, then 20, then 30 and so on. You should leave at least 3 days between doses so that your results arent contaminated and to ensure that all of the chemicals from the first dose are out of your system.
It doesn’t really matter how you ingest it. You can eat it, smoke it, or make tea out of it, but there isnt some magical recipe that lets you get the benefits without the negatives.
The best way to introduce your body to any new drug, espesially with Datura, is that you should always start out low and work your way up until you find a comfort zone, and after you find your limits, you have to respect them or you won’t last long experimenting with hallucinogens.
After reading over what people say about being perminantly fucked up after doing it, its true. It can happen, but you have to do alot of it at once. If that guy was given Datura and told it was weed, he probably smoked the hell out of it. It’s kinda like those that do too much LSD and never wake up. The thing with Datura is that the line between “not enough” and “too much” is pretty narrow, so you have to be extremely careful with it.
Start low and always wait 3 days between doses, even if it does nothing to you. You have to be patient and give your body enough time to adjust to the chemicals and build up a resistance (like said above).
So if you use seeds, I’d start at 10 and up the dose by either 5 or 10 every 3 days until you feel an effect, but I’d make sure that you had nothing to do for a few days first (like work or school). If you decide to make tea, the watering down method mentioned above sounds great. If you decide to smoke the plant parts, I would mix it with pot with a 2-1 ratio of Datura leaves to weed and start out with only ONE bowl with Datura in it.
Always be safe with your drugs and always be careful and respect both the potential of the drug you are doing and your limits. I have experience with many drugs, both legal and illegal, and this much I’ve learned. Don’t be another statistic that people point at and go “hahaha that idiot.. that’s what happens when you do drugs. thats why they should be illegal cause people do this and that and yadda”.
If you can’t be safe and responsible, then dont do them at all because you make the rest of us look bad.
Be safe.
Posted by uhm 2005.12.12, 01:19
Btw…
Datura Stramonium is the most common species of Datura that people use to my knowledge. As said above, Datura is part of the Solanaceae family, which is the same family that potatoes are in. Raw potatoes contain the same alkaloids found in Datura in lower amounts, but if you put one person in a room with a pound of weed and the other with a pound of raw potatoes, the one eating potatoes would OD first. If you’ve ever seen a potato with a green spot on it, the green spots have higher concentrations of these alkaloids by 7 fold. So yes, you can get high off of potatoes. Some species of Datura are Stramonium, Inoxia, Ceratocaula, and Metel.
Datura, Belladonna, Brugmansia, and Brufelsia are all part of the Solanaceae family, but they are easily distinguished apart and some are much more toxic than others.
Datura, for example, have flowers that face upwards while Brugmansia has flowers that droop downwards and look like bells which is where they got the nickname “hells bells”.
Atropa Belladonna (deadly nightshade) is native to Europe and contains the psychoactive chemicals atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine.
Datura is closely related to Belladonna. Datura Inoxia (sacred datura) is native to the American Southwest, and has a long history of shamanic use among the Zuni, Navajo, and several other tribes. Most recently, it has been made infamous by Carlos Castaneda who wrote about its use by his Yaqui teacher Don Juan. Datura stramonium (thornapple, jimsonweed) is a mostly eastern species and was probably introduced to the Americas from the West Indies.
Brugmansias, also known as tree daturas, are tropical varieties which also have a long history of shamanic use in South America. They are often included as admixture ingredients in traditional Ayahuasca (a vine with psychoactive properties which can also be obtained legally, but are dangerous as well) and San Pedro brews.
Brunfelsias are another species native to South America and the West Indies. These Solanaceae family plants are often referred to as having a feminine presence. They have large voluptuous flowers, an intoxicating scent, large soft fuzzy leaves, and a strong feeling of energy about them.
Posted by uhm 2005.12.13, 04:22
I also want to add.. since I’m sure people will want to try this is that its probably a good idea to have a sitter with you. The hallucinations from Datura Stramonium are very strong. They are very bizzare, but seem natural. What I mean is, everything is very, very odd, but seems real… more real than reality itself if that makes any sense. You will see full blown hallucinations of people you haven’t seen in 10 years and have real conversations with them, but if anyone else saw you, they would just see you talking to yourself. You may be sitting shotgun in a car and look in the back seat and see a dark man with a tommy gun and jump out of the moving car because you think its real. It’s that intense. This stuff isn’t for the inexperienced and sometimes not even those people. Datura is beyond psychadelic and has the power to unlock forgotten memories in a very lucid and real state. It’s like a lucid dream, only its reality and you will probably forget that you even took any drugs. It’s that real and this is what makes Datura so dangerous.
It’s probably a very good idea to have a sitter and if you can’t have a sitter and are hell bent on doing it anyways, do a VERY low dose.
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2005.12.14, 07:38
god damn uhm you empty the encyclopedia or what :P
got a question for the wizemen/women of this message board
ive been studying the procedure of distiling it seems that all depending on what you use as a distillant you can get more or less pure results from what your distilling……. to sum it up real simply…..distilling is the process of extracting a chemical from plant or animal sources….Ex: making tea is distilling datura in water to extract the halucinagin compound…. now my question is….if you were to distill datura in say vodka or some other kind of substance would it help or hurt?? i understand that the only way to find this out is to try it (well in my case it is since i dont have a phd or a lab) but if anyone can tell me a reason why this would be a bad idea(besides the obvious) or if anyone has tried this already or if doing this is futile since the alcohol kills most of the chemicals in the plant ect…..then please post it …it will be apreciated
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Posted by jude101 2005.12.17, 22:59
Hi, First off, a lot of the postees here seem scared shitless( rightly so) of datura. I have taken it before a few times and I find that; if you prepare correctly- hydrate, make peace with yourself- then you have the most amazing experiences. I am a bit of a psychonaut and have also drank belladona tea .. The belladona gives the poison throat much worse though(hot, dry and constricting throat). Apart from that the hallucinations are much better off datura. Avoid tea from the datura plant as the quantity of atropine from brew to brew varies too much . The best and most regulated way to intake the stuff is the dried or “Stramonium” seeds. I normally take 50+, but when I first took them I used to be completely cooked after 15 or so. Check the erowid vaults before consumption, think happy thoughts and dont get babysat by idiots. Get someone who knows the score and have fun!! Check out my recent belladona story on mdd and I will have a new datura account in a few weeks as soon as my seeds arrive.
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2005.12.26, 02:53
hi all
i found the answer to my previous question,,,,,it was right under my own nose at http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=11686
just goes to show all answeres come to those who look for them :P
well merry chrismas all and have a happy new year….. see you all clip side of the pink eyed fountain
cheers
Posted by Julio Pop 2005.12.28, 11:06
HELLO,
i have taken it twice once many years ago. and it left me with alot of mental and emotional not to mention memory problems.
I strongly recomend NOT using the flowers to make tea. If you insist on taking this plant.. boil up some of the leaves as a tea for about half an hour and sip this.. not too much. Then you should be okay. If there is no effect then you can increase the dose… the next day… or something.Jules
Posted by lulu 2005.12.29, 01:32
i took this plant myself just a couple nights ago and almost died as a mater of fact! not even from the toxins but just because the halucinations (can’t spell) are that bad and uncontrollable! it wasn’t my first time takeing the flower ether as a mater of fact i’ve taken it a couple times. the first time i took it it was kinda like being on shrooms only when you halucinate it seems far more real! the other night all i can remember is randum halucanations i had. ok for one thing me and my friend hadn’t even left my house untill around 8pm when it was already dark out, (keep in mind this whol story takes place during a storm with warnings all over town not to go into the water)we each ate 2 yellow flowers after we took the flowers we took a bus, only when i got off the buss it was day time, we walked part way to the arcade and my leg kept twitching then it would limp causing me to do a strange swoop every couple of steps along with the ocasional face plant less then 10 min ago i took them and i couldn’t even manage to walk. at one point i decided to let my self fall face first into concreat just so i could make the pain on both sides of my bodey even. when we got to the arcade i kept sitting at random games and screaming at them for not woking when in reality i just needed to put in a token, everything els is kinda hard to remember just bits of things like when i thought I saw my grandmothers dead body purserved in a wax wall and almost went into shock then i could have sworn i was sitting in my room with my little cusion, then i blinked and all of a sudin i was at the beach and the KKK was having a raly and the black panthers were marching behind trying to trip the skin heads, then everyone was fighting and all of a suden i looked over and i thought i was back with my friend sitting on the stairs smoking weed(what i wish i had done instead!) then i blinked agean and i was standing in the midle of the cliff dwellings with my mom and i kept thinking the KKK was attacing us! I kept trying to run away but the curint kept pulling me tourds them then i thought one of them stole my pipe and weed so i tryed to run after him and get it but he went away with the wave. i’m a person who can hardly swim in a pool let alone the ocian during the tides of a storm. I then went under the water and couldn’t even remember to move my arms and i was watching my self from above as i drawnd the KKK members kept trying to drawn me and my mom, i was terafide! the water got above my waist level and i couldn’t figure out how to get out. i looked over and all of a sudden my dad was thier standing in the shadows i was yelling at him to help me and my mom from the KKK and the waves but he just stood thier not blinking not talking not nothing, i couldn’t understand why he wouldn’t help us. I beged him to please just let me sit on his shoulders so the tide couldn’t get me but he just stood thier, i went to jump into my moms arms but fell through them and hit the jagidy rocks below as well as almost drifting to sea. all of a sudden i decided i neeeded to change my sweater so i looked over and thier was my closit and i was in my room. i thought i was changing into PJ’s i through my jacket on the ground wich once agean became the ocean so i tride to run out after it i’m not sure how but i got away from that cliff dwelling (wich would have filled completly to the top with water within the next hour) i was then walking along the beach trying to pick my personal itams off the ground because i thought that the town was going to flood then i was in my room, and i had to catch every thing befor the waves did but every time i would try picking somthing up it would just be sand and i’d keep trying to pick it up and not understand why i could only get sand i did manage to pick up a few things but they would disolved completely in my hand when i touched them. i then remember being infront of the arcade and it was day time i needed i ride but i left my purs and phone long befor all this but that didn’t stop my mind from making a substitute. i kept trying to use my hand as a phone and was getting realy pissed that it wasn’t getting any service so i walked in circles for at least an hour trying to get my phone(hand) to a spot were it would have service. every time i asked someone if they had a phone they just stood thier saying nothing doing nothing but look. then i was in my room with one of my friends, and the KKK and the beach were outside my window in the back yard. all of a suddin it was night agean and a cop shind his light on me and said my name through his speaker naturaly i figured if he already knew my name then it must not be good, i almost ran but thank god i didn’t i would have ran off the warf were he found me because i thought i was infront the arcade. I thought he was thier to stop that god awful raly but aperantly i was missing. i thought it was only around 10 or 11pm but it was about 5:30am all of my family the whole polilce department and a few off my friends had been looking for me all night. normaly you would have to be missing for at least 24 hours for them to look for you but after talking to my friend who also was on the flowers and me leaving my purs and phone on a bench (not at all like me!) they made an exeption. i thought the cop was thier because my mom told them about the skin heads but they wouldn’t belive anything i said and i didn’t know why. they kept talking about how i went swiming in the ocean and every time i would yell at them”no i was pushed under the water when the KKK was attacing me and my mom” i don’t remember saying it but i was going on to the cop about how my head kept falling off and no one would help me pick it up. i would be talking to my mom saying that i never went in the water even though i was drenched from head to tow in sand and water and then i would ask her somthing about the waves. they then took me to a hospital wich i thought to be my house and couldn’t comprehend why i had to use thier blankits and not grab one off my couch after all once i thought about it i could see it. i was halucinating infront of both my parents my mom looked so sad and my dad so disapounted when i asked my mom if she was crying because of what happend at the beach earlyer then they got even more upsett. i ended up losing my only pair of shoes and my favorit sweater thank god i didn’t lose my purs i left it on a bench and a cop found it. well i was in the hospital i refused to belive that everything was in my head then they made me drink a black inky looking chalky tasting drink i “accedently” spilled the second cup when i had to use the bathroom i was washing my hands and i looked up to the reflection in the mirror and it didn’t even look like me my normaly brown eyes were pitch black my white face was red and my tan body coverd in red and gray bruzis, once i got back into my hospital bed i was more aweare of the fact i was by no means sober. then my dad expland to me how none of it was real i tryed to argue but my brain wouldn’t work “think about it mi’ja the beach isn’t in our back yard and if it was we wouldn’t let them have ralys on it” this got me thinking ” But what about the flood?” ” thier was no flood we live next to the pacific,and if thier was a flood it wouldn’t start out at your room on the second floor, but thier were wernings not to go in the water.” well i’m sober now my whole family hates me as well as thinks i have a drug adiction that i don’t, i can’t even leave my house to pick up a sack my eyesight is awful and i have nothing els to do but right it down on this web page. the point is i realy wish we had just smoked weed that night instead. if the cops hadn’t found me when they did i would be dead by now (first time i said somthing good about cops) this flower makes you talk to people who arn’t thier and think your in a diffrent place than you really are and when your that fucked up it’s realy dangerious to not be able to see the right suroundings otherwize you could walk off a cliff or warf or stand in the tide in 30degree weather in a tank top thinking your at your friends house half the time. so if your gonna do somthing do marie jane.
Posted by Y420 2005.12.29, 08:36
ive been interseted w/ this plant as well. ive done some research on it basically on erowid vaults. i plan to trip on it as well but im too scared that the effects would last a couple of days. i was able to read somewhere that this is basically classified under delirant, which is diff from psychedelic or dissociative drugs. psychedelic drugs are LSD and the like, dissociative are Ketamine or PCP and the lovely datura is delirants. diff is on the other drugs you hallucinate but is or can be aware that those are drug induced hallucinations, whilst as the datura hallucinations are so real you will believe what your seeing. its like dreaming while your awake or awake in your dream stuff. very interesting.
well those are what ive found out so far, i am interested in smoking it w/ pot, as ive read also somewhere that it does make a good high w/ lotsa visuals and colors, and doesnt last long enough to make you insane. will probably make more research before venturing the trip first. ive heard its like the mt everst of drugs. i wouldnt really know til i try it myself. ive actually coerced a few of my friends to be sitters while i trip. owell, lets see what i can see!
Posted by JASON 2006.01.01, 01:35
Hey, i just found out some crazy shit! if u wanna do datura but not have 2 fuck with it, just go get some motion sickness pills called DRAMAMINE. its the same kind of trip but just with out the stupidity u get out of the flowers. it comes in a little tube w/ 12 pills in it, just take 8-12 and u should have a hell of a trip. (i did)
Posted by charlie 2006.01.02, 19:13
i read everything above. to sum it all up, ppl got most fucked off the flowers, yet they are not the most potent, the seeds are, starters start at 15-20seeds… my first and only time must have eaten at least 50 seeds, I WAS FUCKED, FUCKED FUCKED FUCKED……… i licked like 5 ju jubes, dipped them into the seeds and chewed it up, didn’t taste that bad…. took an hour ot two to become fucked, at first i felt tipsy, drunk, buzzed, then i became just fucked up, like incomprehensive to what was going on…… people i was dealing with wanted some, but i had quick thoughts running thru my head that i succumbed to nothing but ignoring them….. ppl looked at me and could tell i was fucked on something……… eventually the whole social part was blowing me away, kinda boring, got tored so i layed down when i started my insane visuals, a black/grey meshed fuzzy, changing background was what i saw, with colourful metamorphisizing shapes, like microsoft paint gone wild…………, i remember seeing homer simpson running aorund , turning into a box, or a baseball being hit, and turning into a bird, landing in beach, seeing a man standing there, changing into a cow, or chicken walking around, maybe talking, quickly to the next and the next, always one thing to the next, i remember thinking wildly, with no trends, just random thought processes….. everything in my brain was being bounced off the other, mixing thoughts, many times i was talking to my dreams , i was awake and i knew it , but at times i thought i was sleeping, so i thought i woudn’t move, as u don’t in your dreams, but i did, which was weeeeeeeeeeeird………. so i would interact with my visuals, grabbing them, pushing them, talking to them, but then i’d catch myself moving or talking, while i was only laying on my bed in the dark, i had control over the visuals, when i thought something, it was there,………… before i layed down as i was getting “higher” i also had some goldschlager which i think added to the night, probably too much seeds for a starter and some alcohol, alcohol isn’t smart to take with any drug because of it’s contrary bodily reactions……this made me so much more fucked up… at the beginning i was playing poker when i started getting high, but i soon realized i couldn’t handle it so i just stopped, and wandered around, things were all so vivid, then eventually i found my bed where i found comfort…… the only bad things were that i felt like i had to pee, but could not (semifrustrating), and a few days after my eyes could not focus close up(very frustrating)….i like to see up close……. eventually my sight came back (3 days or so), i could pee (the next morning) and the from alllllllllll readings, it seems if u do too much, it may be fun, or it won’t be, but u’ll trip the fuck out…, so if u want to be safe start off low, and build up, surround yourself with people whoknow what’s up, that you trust and find comfort in… my experience was amazing, i would do it again, but do it only when u have nothing important happening in your life for a long time……………..this is a total mind fuck,…………………………. if u want to push youself mentally to the limits, being high is very mind-blowing, but after you are done with the high, things become awkward for some time……..try it if u dare…… total mind fuck, perfect description……….total mindfuck………. do not exceed 50 seeds, they are small, but it is some strong shit…….3 main drugs… all very serious….. in conclusion, this drug is unlike E, K, shrooms……. or LSD, LSD is a psychadelic, datura is a deleriant, big difference, lsd u know ur fucked up, and deleriants you don’t, really know what’s happening, ur mind is not stable, it’s everywhere……. u just are fucked…… if u are big into expanding the mind, this this, but do between 20-40 seeds, take care of yourself, but after, ………… u will not be the same, i think sometimes that i fucked my memory, and my mental processes, who knows, maybe, maybe not, i only think that way if i think of the datura…….. but we all choose our own paths………this drug, will fuck……..u…..up…… so try it if u dare
Posted by Kevin 2006.01.03, 03:15
Please don’t do this drug. http://mv.lycaeum.org/mu/datura.html
Read this and then think about trying this “cool drug”.
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2006.01.03, 11:40
hi all
kevin thanks for the link, seriously.
as much as i like this plant i cant stress enough how dangerous it is when taken by someone who doesnt know what he or she is getting into.
i read all the articles on that site and im gratefull to you kevin for having shared it with us…it gave me the reminder i needed that this plant need above all to be respected…cause you never know who might be the next person to end up like that poor kid from Germany….a single seed can be a dud just as much as it can be a silver bullet….something that even the most wize must be reminded of from time to time.
Posted by brian 2006.01.12, 10:51
yea my buddy just went to the hospital… he jumped out of a 2 story window.. and started having seizures. when i took the same amount. and nothing happened to me except some bad trips.. he still hasnt fully recovered.. crazzzzzy shit man. id be careful
Posted by Lithenhoss 2006.02.04, 16:03
I am a very educated person who has done everything. I have grown and eaten datura many times. You need to be careful I have eaten way to much with friends who lost thier minds. I am tripping on about 17 datura seeds right now. Datura is a sacred plant which deserves respect. RESPECT all plants for all pants must share this planet with us
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2006.02.17, 08:17
hi all
its mid feb and my datura plant is thriving (i grow in my closet) my room is a permanent sickly sent of flowers and polen. my question is for anyone who grows datura indoor or outside…i was quite stoned a few days ago (weed) and befor coming down off a buzz i decided to take a few leaves from my plant and smoke them with some weed…. finish my 3rd bowls…end up on my back… felt like something had knocked me straight down…i get up to see the grow light for my datura plant flikering on and off….im like wtf…i go closer and look around see if maybe it was the wires or ect…go to touch the plant gets knocked straight back on my ass…..at this point im intrigued…so i did what anyone in this situation would do…i sat down infront of my plant and kept pocking at it…everytime i would get within 1/2 inch of the plant or any of it braches or leaves all the hairs on my arm would raise and it felt like i was getting shocked…i procede to remove all the lights from my room and light a few candles (make sure its not a short in the elec system of what not)…after getting my courage up (you have no clue how much it hurt every time i got close to that plant) i stretch out my hands and lightly caresse the plant determined not to let go….this is not advised to those of week indurance (or sober nature)…i basicly redefined my world as living pain…..after about 8 -10 minuts of strugling to stay within reach of the plant…i felt as if something just lifted me square off the ground and threw me against the wall….beaten but not defeated i got back up…i look at my plant and at this point i couldent tell if it was on mad crack or if i was halucinating or had blunt force trauma to the head…. floating above my plant was a misty blue figure of what appeared to be a woman she was holding a feather in her left hand…i tried to get closer to get a better look but with a swish of her feather she send me right back to the wall from were i came….at this point i decided to take a slightly less painfull aproch…so some time of meditation later i can get close enough to the plant to sit next to it….the apparition is long gone but theres still a sense of foreboding around my room….my theory shes pissed i took leaves withought permission….anyway my main question is…has anyone had simular experiences or was i just having mad halucinations that night??
any intel would be appreciated
thanks
dwell not in the affairs of cats…for they are subtle..and will piss on your computer
Posted by Alexander 2006.03.03, 10:39
Datura is a powerfull plant that should only be used for religious rituals, rites of passage etc. It makes me nervous to hear that many of you are actively seeking to get high recreationally from the plant I highly advise against this. If you want to get high smoke some weed take mushrooms, dont ingest datura it is poisonous. Im especially turned off by stories of 17 year olds ingesting up to 200 hundred seeds and being hospitalized your enthusiasm for recreational, instead of spiritual educated use rubs off on younger people who dont know about the dangers of ingesting datura. If you want to expand your mind use other methods, if you want to take a painfull life changing spiritual journey use datura but be warned and do your homework.
Posted by Lithenhoss 2006.03.26, 10:37
I don’t use Datura to get High I use it as a religious sacrament. It is a VERY DANGEROUS PLANT. Learn about things before you just go and do them that is a good way to return back to ashes.
Posted by honestnick 2006.05.04, 16:02
Still making my movie. Any and all anecdotes, thoughts, stories or threats are welcome. daturamovie@gmail.com. Be careful you kids… Respect the lady. She’s dangerous.
Posted by Scott 2006.06.18, 15:38
allright two of my freinds and I brewed up a datura plant seeds and leafs, we drank the tea and 20 min later I was on the ground shivering and not able to speak. I was trying to speak but nothing would come out. I dont remember anything afer that. I was informed after that the three of us got up after crashing to the ground and basically went crazy. One of my freinds ran off and was found in some bushes eating grass by the cops..I on the other hand was fighting the fire dept and ended up in a strait jacket and sent to the hospital along with my two freinds. I wear a scar on my brow in rememberance of something I will never be able to recall only through the stories of my freinds who were smart enough to call the police. It was a party atmosphere,my band just got done playing a kick ass show so we were hammered when we took it. My mother got a call at three in the morning from the hospital…”you better get down here your son is probably not going to make it through the night” I had the most potent part of the tea(i drank the last of it) and was lucky to walk out of there with my life…it took a month to recoup phyiscally from basically seisuring and not persperating sweat all night..I was in the hospital for over 24 hours.they were going to put me into a drug induced coma but my mom insisted not to. I thank her for that. I am lucky to be young so my body was strong enough to perservere and make it through the night. All I remember is waking up with a cather in my dick and pucking green slime.
Posted by bud 2006.06.23, 10:07
I ate one tablespoon of jimsonweed seeds 30 years ago to get high. That was the last time I ever took any drugs. I hallucinated for 3-4 weeks. Much of that time was spent restrained to a bed in a hospital physco ward. I snapped out of it just before I was to be transferred to a mental hospital. True story. Don’t play with it. All my friends who did the same that night sufferred the same results.
Posted by HeWhoDaresToDream 2006.08.03, 05:32
hi all long time no post
so my friend come’s up to me the other day with a pipe and a baggy full of what i would describe as black paint chips, he starts packing a bowl befor i can even ask him wtf that is and hands me the pipe telling me “this shit will fuck you up”. im no idiot if it looks like paint chip and smells like chloraform im not to inclined to take it. turn’s out it a “new” drug called salvia (im fully aware that this is a datura site) simular to datura in a few aspects, both legal, both extremely potent when taken correctly, both EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, a single hit from a bowl of salvia sent me into a total mind fuck, complete loss of direction, completly lost sense of self and physical being. my world was turned upside down and nothing people said or did registered in my mind, after i finaly came down my sense of time was so distorted i thought i took that hit 2 weeks ago and had been tripping ever since when in reality it had only been 3 minuts…to sum it up most intense buzz of my life….up to that point….next day withought telling me that same friend crushed up some datura seeds and leaves and mixed it with the salvia and offered it to me….eager to re-enter that state of mind that the last trip brought i took it withought question….till i tasted the trade mark harshness that is datura…. if datura was a bond fire salvia would be the 5 gallon of gaz you put on top to start it up, i haddent even exhaled yet when my world turned blue and yellow nothing anywere mattered anymore , according to my friend they sat me down and had to hold me there becose i kept trying to run into the nearby field for some reason, during this time my spirit was elsewere getting dizier while running threw random blobs of yellow and blue, the next thing i remember is plumeting towards my body and coliding with it then i woke up on my back sitting on the same stairs were my friends were holding me down, the after affects were so intense that i had to be dragged to my friends house and put to bed only to wake up 16H later , it was one fucked up trip and since the experience ive had a certain sence of being awake for the first time.
i have no clue what to say about doses or anything if anyone else wants to try it…but trust me if you try it get alot of sitters and a wheelchair, this experience drains you to the core and try salvia first seperatly, its one hell of a drug. the experience was one to remember but probably not one to revisist (still debating), to this day i still think that i had an out-of-body experience to a degree ive never felt befor, and just a warning expect to feel like your walking on air for the next week or so. anyways thats all for me peace out and trip safely
People retire from their mind all the time, What won’t let you alone is your reputation.
Posted by fathead N.Z 2006.08.17, 14:27
Im from the Wairarapa in New Zealand and this is my experience taking datura with a cuple of my mates and how fucked up we got Me and 2 of my friends tried datura just over a month ago. We had nothing else to do and it was school holidays with 4 days left. we went to my friends uncles house with 3 pockets full of datura leaves and unopened datura flowers. He cooked the datura up for us and we smoked a blunt wrap with him. We were already stoned and then started to drink datura tea. me and my mates had about 600-700mls between us and this was our first time taking datura. I was 14, and both my mates were 15. I drank about 300mls of the tea, my friend (smaller than I was) drank about 350 mls plus, and my other friend (bigger than both of us) had only 3 shots of datura tea. We left my mates uncles house and started walking home about half an hour after drinking the tea. We were stumbling back to my house just feeling stoned but not feeling the datura. When we got to my house i started watchn tv in my bed while my mates were on the computa. I feel asleep on my bed and woke up in hospital 6-8 hours later. I was completely out of it! I kept geting asked where i was and asked how I got there. I kept seeing blurry shiny things on my clothes and on the walls. I kept hearing my friend talk 2 me but i coudnt see him. Then i was told he was in hospital just before i woke up and was taken home by his parents. I was told that while i was on datura i was shaking in my sleep and banging my head on the wall. I also had a black eye at the end of it. I didnt even know that i had a black eye until i looked in the mirror. I was told that i could have died. I was told that my heart was beating alot faster tahn normal and could have gone into cardiac arrest. When i got home after being discharged from the hospital at about 8:00 am the next morning I coudnt remember a thing. My mind was blank from when I fell asleep to when i woke up in hospital. I called my mate that had 3 shots of tea a cuple days later. He said he was talking to people that were not there and seeing shiny bugs crawling on his bedroom wall and also opening the door to let his imaginary friend in and startd talking to the door. This drug is some crazy shit!! It fucks your head up on multiple levels whilst on datura. Everything you see you think is real. I may never try this shit again but if i do i wont be crazy enough to take a cuple glasses of it… only a cupl shots. Those who are deciding to try datura, shud have a cuple sitters and take only a litle bit. Its better to take a litle bit and feel a litl bit than 2 take alot and end up in hospital or dead. If your daring to take this drug be careful….
Posted by chris 2006.11.13, 05:55
i tried datura once a little over a year ago. i never take psychadelics but i was really drunk and got talked into it. i ate half of a seedpod and the majority of the seeds in it (a massive dose), raw. now i know this is the most dangerous way to injest datura, so never ever do that, especially when using stiumulants.
anyways it was a horrifying experience. i swept my floor for hours trying to get rid of imaginary ants that wouldnt go away, i smoked packs and packs of imaginary cigarettes, talked to posters on my wall, people who weren’t in the room, and a chair for over 4 hours because i thought it was a kid with elephantitus… the list goes on forever of all the weird shit that happened. most of all though, i had moments of sobriety in the trip that made me think i would be insane for the rest of my life, and that scared the shit out of me. i couldn’t tell the difference between hallucination and reality. it took 2 days to get sober again, but i was freaked out about the trip for months.
From my experience, which i realize was reckless and excessive, i still have to recommend not ever using datura. The two scariest days of my whole life were from my datura trip.
Posted by roobs 2006.12.29, 16:08
is coffee a poison? is tea? is marijuana? datura is a drug that can be poisonous at high doses. atropine is used in heart surgery and can be dangerous at any level but you can buy scopoalamine over the counter- it’s in seasick tablets. you shouldn’t spread mis-information. taken in the right setting and at a standardised dose tropane alkoids can be very mentally challenging and ultimately enlightening. people have been taking datura for thousands of years- along with amanita muscaria it’s one of the oldest entheogens known to man. be very careful but if you feel the call then do what you feel is right- just remember the other side of the mirror is a scary place, alice…
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